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		<title>Comment on Feinstein Amnesty Bill May Be Voted On This Friday! Contact Your Senator! by Ghazala Khan</title>
		<link>http://errantmind.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/feinstein-amnesty-bill-may-be-voted-on-this-friday-contact-your-senator/#comment-24396</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghazala Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dear and Respected,
I hope you are fine and carrying on the great work you have been doing for the Internet surfers. I am Ghazala Khan from The Pakistani Spectator (TPS), We at TPS throw a candid look on everything happening in and for Pakistan in the world. We are trying to contribute our humble share in the webosphere. Our aim is to foster peace, progress and harmony with passion.
 
We at TPS are carrying out a new series of interviews with the notable passionate bloggers, writers, and webmasters. In that regard, we would like to interview you, if you don't mind. Please send us your approval for your interview at my email address "ghazala.khi at gmail.com", so that I could send you the Interview questions. We would be extremely grateful.

regards.
 
Ghazala Khan
The Pakistani Spectator
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dear and Respected,<br />
I hope you are fine and carrying on the great work you have been doing for the Internet surfers. I am Ghazala Khan from The Pakistani Spectator (TPS), We at TPS throw a candid look on everything happening in and for Pakistan in the world. We are trying to contribute our humble share in the webosphere. Our aim is to foster peace, progress and harmony with passion.</p>
<p>We at TPS are carrying out a new series of interviews with the notable passionate bloggers, writers, and webmasters. In that regard, we would like to interview you, if you don&#8217;t mind. Please send us your approval for your interview at my email address &#8220;ghazala.khi at gmail.com&#8221;, so that I could send you the Interview questions. We would be extremely grateful.</p>
<p>regards.</p>
<p>Ghazala Khan<br />
The Pakistani Spectator<br />
<a href="http://www.pakspectator.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pakspectator.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Mexican Threat To America (Terrorists, Drug Cartels, Russia, Cuba, And Red Dawn) by John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my gosh. People like YOU disgust ME. You might want to take a mirror and check just how red your neck is.

The US is in a recession and it is lucky to have those workers. It is in Mexico's best interest to stop trading with the US and start making stronger alliances with Canada and South America due to where the US economy is headed. They continue to trade with the US inexplicably, perhaps out of loyalty.

The rapes and murders and such are problems, yes. But it is unethical to condemn an ethnic group for it. These problems have existed in the US since the 13 colonies. People commit these crimes all over the world and the Mexicans and other Latin Americans aren't causing it by a long shot.

How can you call Mexico corrupt when the US is one of the most corrupt nations on earth, with a regulated press, that goes around bombing countries for resources? Furthermore, you have made the ridiculous point that the US should invade Mexico. The US shouldn't be invading any countries! Especially Mexico which is one of its closest allies. The US is the world's bully and hopefully its current economic state will teach it a lesson to change its ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gosh. People like YOU disgust ME. You might want to take a mirror and check just how red your neck is.</p>
<p>The US is in a recession and it is lucky to have those workers. It is in Mexico&#8217;s best interest to stop trading with the US and start making stronger alliances with Canada and South America due to where the US economy is headed. They continue to trade with the US inexplicably, perhaps out of loyalty.</p>
<p>The rapes and murders and such are problems, yes. But it is unethical to condemn an ethnic group for it. These problems have existed in the US since the 13 colonies. People commit these crimes all over the world and the Mexicans and other Latin Americans aren&#8217;t causing it by a long shot.</p>
<p>How can you call Mexico corrupt when the US is one of the most corrupt nations on earth, with a regulated press, that goes around bombing countries for resources? Furthermore, you have made the ridiculous point that the US should invade Mexico. The US shouldn&#8217;t be invading any countries! Especially Mexico which is one of its closest allies. The US is the world&#8217;s bully and hopefully its current economic state will teach it a lesson to change its ways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Mexican Threat To America (Terrorists, Drug Cartels, Russia, Cuba, And Red Dawn) by Sean Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, that’s funny–as I can’t imagine there are still people out there that think illegal aliens don’t cause problems. And those industries don’t depend on illegal aliens…cheap labor barons do. The US economy would be in better shape if they were all gone. How do I know this?

It’s called The Law of Supply and Demand. It tells us when they are all gone, wages will improve for all Americans, new methods and innovations will replace illegal labor or some industries will have to shrink or disappear altogether. That’s natural and fine.

We shouldn’t be kissing their feet. I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee. We don’t need illegal immigrants. What we need is a government that does its job, people that do business ethically and legally, and American consumers that give a damn about their fellow countrymen and their country.

How funny that you want someone charged with hate crimes for simply telling the truth. They have terms for people like that, but they need not be repeated here.

You are quite wrong about me being bigoted as well. I am tolerant of far more people than are tolerant of me–simply because I think we ought to have a right to determine who lives in our country and the will to secure our borders and enforce our laws.

People like you disgust me. You don’t care what happens to our country, you don’t care what happens to wages and the minimum wage, you don’t care about anything really—so long as you have cheap lawn care and lettuce…and you might save $1000 on the cost of replacing a roof because someone used illegal aliens to build it.

You don’t care about the rapes, the murders, the drugs, the violence, the racism that many from Mexico and other Latin American countries are bringing into ours (as if we don’t have enough problems of our own).

What doesn’t make any sense is that you live in some fantasy land where all of that doesn’t exist or matter unless someone doesn’t want all those wonderful things to keep getting worse.

I suppose for you and others like you, none of that is important—so long as the cost of a hamburger doesn’t go up and you can continue to get that cheap lawn care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, that’s funny–as I can’t imagine there are still people out there that think illegal aliens don’t cause problems. And those industries don’t depend on illegal aliens…cheap labor barons do. The US economy would be in better shape if they were all gone. How do I know this?</p>
<p>It’s called The Law of Supply and Demand. It tells us when they are all gone, wages will improve for all Americans, new methods and innovations will replace illegal labor or some industries will have to shrink or disappear altogether. That’s natural and fine.</p>
<p>We shouldn’t be kissing their feet. I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee. We don’t need illegal immigrants. What we need is a government that does its job, people that do business ethically and legally, and American consumers that give a damn about their fellow countrymen and their country.</p>
<p>How funny that you want someone charged with hate crimes for simply telling the truth. They have terms for people like that, but they need not be repeated here.</p>
<p>You are quite wrong about me being bigoted as well. I am tolerant of far more people than are tolerant of me–simply because I think we ought to have a right to determine who lives in our country and the will to secure our borders and enforce our laws.</p>
<p>People like you disgust me. You don’t care what happens to our country, you don’t care what happens to wages and the minimum wage, you don’t care about anything really—so long as you have cheap lawn care and lettuce…and you might save $1000 on the cost of replacing a roof because someone used illegal aliens to build it.</p>
<p>You don’t care about the rapes, the murders, the drugs, the violence, the racism that many from Mexico and other Latin American countries are bringing into ours (as if we don’t have enough problems of our own).</p>
<p>What doesn’t make any sense is that you live in some fantasy land where all of that doesn’t exist or matter unless someone doesn’t want all those wonderful things to keep getting worse.</p>
<p>I suppose for you and others like you, none of that is important—so long as the cost of a hamburger doesn’t go up and you can continue to get that cheap lawn care.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Mexican Threat To America (Terrorists, Drug Cartels, Russia, Cuba, And Red Dawn) by John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe that there are still  bigots out there that think that the illegal or not workers from Mexico should be sent back and that they cause problems. Many industries such as agriculture and construction depend on these migrant workers like you wouldn't believe. In fact, The US economy would be twice as bad as it is now (and right now its horrible) if these workers were to leave. We should be kissing their feet, not trying to send them back. In fact, I think that you should be charged with hate crimes for the ridiculous arguements that you have made. The US has nothing more than an opportunity with Mexico, very little risk is  involved. The immigration policy is  a joke: these workers shouldn't have to come illegally because there should be work-migration programs in place to accomodate to them. The system right now doesn't make any sense as the US treats these migrant workers terribly although they need them so bad. Wake up and smell the coffee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe that there are still  bigots out there that think that the illegal or not workers from Mexico should be sent back and that they cause problems. Many industries such as agriculture and construction depend on these migrant workers like you wouldn&#8217;t believe. In fact, The US economy would be twice as bad as it is now (and right now its horrible) if these workers were to leave. We should be kissing their feet, not trying to send them back. In fact, I think that you should be charged with hate crimes for the ridiculous arguements that you have made. The US has nothing more than an opportunity with Mexico, very little risk is  involved. The immigration policy is  a joke: these workers shouldn&#8217;t have to come illegally because there should be work-migration programs in place to accomodate to them. The system right now doesn&#8217;t make any sense as the US treats these migrant workers terribly although they need them so bad. Wake up and smell the coffee!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bias Against Southern History Still Remains Due To Ignorance by Sean Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 22:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, thanks for dropping by to read and comment.

Yes, I'm quite sure about that. Slavery has been abolished as an institution in every single democracy around the globe. It was a matter of time.

As to the many forms of slavery that exist today--such as they exist--are in non-democratic societies and mostly in Africa and Asia and the Middle East. Most are also rooted in religious and decidedly non-Western institutions of civilization. The sex slave trade isn't even an institution, meaning I know of no country that has it as an institutional policy or openly condones it.

I would give you a break, except really, I don't think you deserve any special break. The least you could do is check your history and do a bit of research. If you had read even my original post all the way through you would have been aware that contrary to what you just stated, the North did not abolish slavery before the South. In fact, slavery was legal in the North  until after the end of the war.

You may find it convenient to ignore that, and that is exactly what my post was about. Too many people don't even know their basic American history and go around accusing the South and those who live in it as having been somehow more horrible than those living in the North.

As to the race issue, please, give me a break. There have been slaves of every race, even white. However, you are also ignoring the fact that most slaves of any race are sold into slavery by their own people, which was something quite different from those taken as slaves in war. That applies to all those you mentioned. And really, have the revisionists rewritten history to suggest that we had Jewish slaves in the South now? If you want to split hairs, there were in fact even white indentured servants in both the North and South.

If anything sounds like it is unsettled here, it seems to me that you have a chip on your shoulder about race, I must say. first of all, I'm 1/4 Native American...and as I have written elsewhere in my blog, I have been told by more than a few whites that I wasn't white enough, but I also get told as often or more by Native Americans that I'm not native enough either.

Seems you and those people are guilty of the very thing you like to go around accusing others of--being racist. And really, what do you know of slavery above and beyond what anyone else knows of it? I feel pretty confident in saying that no one living in America today has ever experienced it. So, perhaps you need to get the chip of YOUR shoulder and think about the history of the nation objectively.

Because really, I can bitch and moan more than any black who just has slavery to complain about that their ancestors may have endured. My ancestors had to deal with genocidal policies, slavery, war, the loss of their homeland and being put on a reservation. My grandmother went to the Chilocco Indian school which played a significant role in helping destroy Native American culture.

Why is it that people like you go around thinking you have some special background that give you all the right to complain or be offended or a bigger cross to bear?

As to Mexicans with a long history in the south, you might actually have meant Hispanics. You see, the South, after all was an American nation. There were Hispanics who had lived in Texas and were residents of Texas, however. There are those in Texas (I grew up in south Texas myself along the border) whose ancestors served proudly in the Confederacy. Again, you might want to check your history before you go making accusations.

In the meantime, please feel free to share with us the many places and forms of slavery that exist? If you're talking wage slavery, that's something altogether different. Show me where real forced slavery is institutionalized? I bet mostly it happens to be in Africa and Asia, and not in democratic societies. You can cast doubts all you want at whether or not slavery would have ceased to exist on its own, but the simple truth is that it did--in democracies in Europe as well as in North America, and far more quickly than it disappeared in other places.

Let's not forget--whites did not bring slavery to the Americas. It was already here and already practiced by Native Americans from one end of the hemisphere to the other. We do want to be historically accurate after all, don't we?

But, really, all I want is for people to at least get their history straight. What they think of it after doing so, well, no one can really do anything about that. However, when people go around propagating inaccuracies and outright lies, or making racist comments, I have no sympathy whatsoever for them.

What about my brother (who technically my half brother) who is also 1/4 Native American and has a father of Castilian Spanish   heritage...and also is Scots-Irish? He is proud of his heritage as am I. My niece, his daughter, has a mother who is of Mexican descent. Who the hell are you to go around telling me what I think, know, or have experienced, or that I am somehow privileged because of my skin color? I fought for this country--how about you? I also lost everything and ended up homeless, living in a cardboard box at one point--how about you? I bet you have had every bit as much a privileged life as I have, possible even more.

I worked for everything I have, put my ass on the line in a war just so I could get money to go to school. Even then, the Army screwed me out of tens of thousands of dollars on my College Fund because some jackass E-6 checked a wrong box. Then, the government takes my parental rights away from me so that I can never see my son again because if you don't see your child for 3 months in some states it is considered abandonment.  I'm sorry I was living in a box in the snow and worrying about staying alive. This is how my country rewarded me. And I suppose I could go  don't go around with a sanctimonious attitude, lugging a cross to stick in everyone's face, but I don't.

But, please, if you're so inclined, go ahead. Feel free to share with us the incredibly difficult and oppressed life you led so we can all contrast it with mine. I haven't even scratched the surface...

All I have asked is for people to get their history straight.

Do have a wonderful day, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, thanks for dropping by to read and comment.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m quite sure about that. Slavery has been abolished as an institution in every single democracy around the globe. It was a matter of time.</p>
<p>As to the many forms of slavery that exist today&#8211;such as they exist&#8211;are in non-democratic societies and mostly in Africa and Asia and the Middle East. Most are also rooted in religious and decidedly non-Western institutions of civilization. The sex slave trade isn&#8217;t even an institution, meaning I know of no country that has it as an institutional policy or openly condones it.</p>
<p>I would give you a break, except really, I don&#8217;t think you deserve any special break. The least you could do is check your history and do a bit of research. If you had read even my original post all the way through you would have been aware that contrary to what you just stated, the North did not abolish slavery before the South. In fact, slavery was legal in the North  until after the end of the war.</p>
<p>You may find it convenient to ignore that, and that is exactly what my post was about. Too many people don&#8217;t even know their basic American history and go around accusing the South and those who live in it as having been somehow more horrible than those living in the North.</p>
<p>As to the race issue, please, give me a break. There have been slaves of every race, even white. However, you are also ignoring the fact that most slaves of any race are sold into slavery by their own people, which was something quite different from those taken as slaves in war. That applies to all those you mentioned. And really, have the revisionists rewritten history to suggest that we had Jewish slaves in the South now? If you want to split hairs, there were in fact even white indentured servants in both the North and South.</p>
<p>If anything sounds like it is unsettled here, it seems to me that you have a chip on your shoulder about race, I must say. first of all, I&#8217;m 1/4 Native American&#8230;and as I have written elsewhere in my blog, I have been told by more than a few whites that I wasn&#8217;t white enough, but I also get told as often or more by Native Americans that I&#8217;m not native enough either.</p>
<p>Seems you and those people are guilty of the very thing you like to go around accusing others of&#8211;being racist. And really, what do you know of slavery above and beyond what anyone else knows of it? I feel pretty confident in saying that no one living in America today has ever experienced it. So, perhaps you need to get the chip of YOUR shoulder and think about the history of the nation objectively.</p>
<p>Because really, I can bitch and moan more than any black who just has slavery to complain about that their ancestors may have endured. My ancestors had to deal with genocidal policies, slavery, war, the loss of their homeland and being put on a reservation. My grandmother went to the Chilocco Indian school which played a significant role in helping destroy Native American culture.</p>
<p>Why is it that people like you go around thinking you have some special background that give you all the right to complain or be offended or a bigger cross to bear?</p>
<p>As to Mexicans with a long history in the south, you might actually have meant Hispanics. You see, the South, after all was an American nation. There were Hispanics who had lived in Texas and were residents of Texas, however. There are those in Texas (I grew up in south Texas myself along the border) whose ancestors served proudly in the Confederacy. Again, you might want to check your history before you go making accusations.</p>
<p>In the meantime, please feel free to share with us the many places and forms of slavery that exist? If you&#8217;re talking wage slavery, that&#8217;s something altogether different. Show me where real forced slavery is institutionalized? I bet mostly it happens to be in Africa and Asia, and not in democratic societies. You can cast doubts all you want at whether or not slavery would have ceased to exist on its own, but the simple truth is that it did&#8211;in democracies in Europe as well as in North America, and far more quickly than it disappeared in other places.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget&#8211;whites did not bring slavery to the Americas. It was already here and already practiced by Native Americans from one end of the hemisphere to the other. We do want to be historically accurate after all, don&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>But, really, all I want is for people to at least get their history straight. What they think of it after doing so, well, no one can really do anything about that. However, when people go around propagating inaccuracies and outright lies, or making racist comments, I have no sympathy whatsoever for them.</p>
<p>What about my brother (who technically my half brother) who is also 1/4 Native American and has a father of Castilian Spanish   heritage&#8230;and also is Scots-Irish? He is proud of his heritage as am I. My niece, his daughter, has a mother who is of Mexican descent. Who the hell are you to go around telling me what I think, know, or have experienced, or that I am somehow privileged because of my skin color? I fought for this country&#8211;how about you? I also lost everything and ended up homeless, living in a cardboard box at one point&#8211;how about you? I bet you have had every bit as much a privileged life as I have, possible even more.</p>
<p>I worked for everything I have, put my ass on the line in a war just so I could get money to go to school. Even then, the Army screwed me out of tens of thousands of dollars on my College Fund because some jackass E-6 checked a wrong box. Then, the government takes my parental rights away from me so that I can never see my son again because if you don&#8217;t see your child for 3 months in some states it is considered abandonment.  I&#8217;m sorry I was living in a box in the snow and worrying about staying alive. This is how my country rewarded me. And I suppose I could go  don&#8217;t go around with a sanctimonious attitude, lugging a cross to stick in everyone&#8217;s face, but I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But, please, if you&#8217;re so inclined, go ahead. Feel free to share with us the incredibly difficult and oppressed life you led so we can all contrast it with mine. I haven&#8217;t even scratched the surface&#8230;</p>
<p>All I have asked is for people to get their history straight.</p>
<p>Do have a wonderful day, though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bias Against Southern History Still Remains Due To Ignorance by Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The South would probably have needed it as an institution to survive economically for a few decades after secession if it had gone peacefully. I highly doubt, however, that it would have remained as an institution in light of the advance of history and the accelerating rate of discovery, enlightenment, scientific discovery.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You sure about that? If this was true, slavery wouldn't exist in its many forms around the globe today. 

The way I see it, the support for the Confederacy supports the "peculiar institution" it retained long after the North abolished slavery. Yes, slavery existed in the colonies and the abolishment of slavery didn't eradicate widespread racism, BUT to say "history is written by the victors," it comes across as petulant. I wish that all the minorities in America who were oppressed because they weren't "white" could use that argument when pointing out our exclusion from the history books. Find a few blacks, Jews, Chinese, and Mexicans with long roots in the South who want history to stop belittling the Confederacy and we can talk. Until then, it just hears like the privilege of a white American who feels that they're not included in the game, when the game was written for them.

Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The South would probably have needed it as an institution to survive economically for a few decades after secession if it had gone peacefully. I highly doubt, however, that it would have remained as an institution in light of the advance of history and the accelerating rate of discovery, enlightenment, scientific discovery.</p></blockquote>
<p>You sure about that? If this was true, slavery wouldn&#8217;t exist in its many forms around the globe today. </p>
<p>The way I see it, the support for the Confederacy supports the &#8220;peculiar institution&#8221; it retained long after the North abolished slavery. Yes, slavery existed in the colonies and the abolishment of slavery didn&#8217;t eradicate widespread racism, BUT to say &#8220;history is written by the victors,&#8221; it comes across as petulant. I wish that all the minorities in America who were oppressed because they weren&#8217;t &#8220;white&#8221; could use that argument when pointing out our exclusion from the history books. Find a few blacks, Jews, Chinese, and Mexicans with long roots in the South who want history to stop belittling the Confederacy and we can talk. Until then, it just hears like the privilege of a white American who feels that they&#8217;re not included in the game, when the game was written for them.</p>
<p>Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thought Roundup: May 9 by Jason Roark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common sense and American duty; to bad we couldn't get some people into government that still practiced them.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Song Of The Day: Sick Of It All - Step Down by Sean Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie,

Yes, I have been in a pit here and there. Not that it's my thing really. And yes, since I am older these days, I do tend to leave them to youngsters, lol. Still have all my teeth too.

Glad you enjoyed the video! I hope you are tension free and enjoying your day.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie,</p>
<p>Yes, I have been in a pit here and there. Not that it&#8217;s my thing really. And yes, since I am older these days, I do tend to leave them to youngsters, lol. Still have all my teeth too.</p>
<p>Glad you enjoyed the video! I hope you are tension free and enjoying your day.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bias Against Southern History Still Remains Due To Ignorance by Sean Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for dropping by again. You are quite right, and I agree that the South did many things designed to undermine compromises and preserve the institution of slavery. No question of that.

I think the main thing I would like people to realize is that they did not necessarily do so just because they wanted slaves. Sure, here you could get into the dangerous waters of moral relativism and make the whole case for "well, that's just the way the world was at that time" but I won't.

The South would probably have needed it as an institution to survive economically for a few decades after secession if it had gone peacefully. I highly doubt, however, that it would have remained as an institution in light of the advance of history and the accelerating rate of discovery, enlightenment, scientific discovery. Of course, we have no way of knowing that. It just seems to me that the South's eventual industrialization and the tide of capitalism and enlightenment would have ended it at some point naturally.

As a Southerner, I see the Civil War quite differently than what they taught me in college--which came across as decidedly biased in my opinion. I see it as a war that sought to prevent the loss of needed resources and to maintain territorial integrity, in order to thwart a dimming of political status among the world's nations on the part of the North that would have resulted if the secession had gone uncontested.

Slavery was simply the rallying cry and topic of convenience that was used to cause division, whip emotions, and fan the flames of the cause of both sides.

I hope you will find much to read and enjoy on the blog.

Oh, and yes, I'm a Ron Paul supporter. In fact, if the South rose again, I would nominate him for President.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping by again. You are quite right, and I agree that the South did many things designed to undermine compromises and preserve the institution of slavery. No question of that.</p>
<p>I think the main thing I would like people to realize is that they did not necessarily do so just because they wanted slaves. Sure, here you could get into the dangerous waters of moral relativism and make the whole case for &#8220;well, that&#8217;s just the way the world was at that time&#8221; but I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The South would probably have needed it as an institution to survive economically for a few decades after secession if it had gone peacefully. I highly doubt, however, that it would have remained as an institution in light of the advance of history and the accelerating rate of discovery, enlightenment, scientific discovery. Of course, we have no way of knowing that. It just seems to me that the South&#8217;s eventual industrialization and the tide of capitalism and enlightenment would have ended it at some point naturally.</p>
<p>As a Southerner, I see the Civil War quite differently than what they taught me in college&#8211;which came across as decidedly biased in my opinion. I see it as a war that sought to prevent the loss of needed resources and to maintain territorial integrity, in order to thwart a dimming of political status among the world&#8217;s nations on the part of the North that would have resulted if the secession had gone uncontested.</p>
<p>Slavery was simply the rallying cry and topic of convenience that was used to cause division, whip emotions, and fan the flames of the cause of both sides.</p>
<p>I hope you will find much to read and enjoy on the blog.</p>
<p>Oh, and yes, I&#8217;m a Ron Paul supporter. In fact, if the South rose again, I would nominate him for President. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Bias Against Southern History Still Remains Due To Ignorance by Drawn2Know</title>
		<link>http://errantmind.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/bias-against-southern-history-still-remains-due-to-ignorance/#comment-24375</link>
		<dc:creator>Drawn2Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, 

Good to hear back from you... I appreciate your generous and gracious response. I can tell that you, too, enjoy a good historical discussion!

I would like to first say that i agree with all of your points.

I would also like to admit academic irresponsibility on my part:
after reading your original post and my response more closely, I can clearly see that i misconstrued your point. I apologize, I simply didnt read as thoroughly as your points deserved.

Now that I have a clearer head I agree with you completely.

I just wanted to clarify one thing: in my second point I didn't mean to imply that slavery was the south's only preoccupation. I meant that much of what the south(ern democrats)  were doing politically at the time was intended to preserve and expand the institution of slavery which they saw as fundamental to southern agriculture. This created a mentality in the North that every move made by the south was calculated to undermine the many 'compromises' litigated at the time. You bring up a very good point, however, mentioning that the North acted with "wartime resources" in mind.  
Indeed, much as history is misunderstood today, so did the North and South adulterate the other's intentions.

Thanks again, for clarifying things for me. I am impressed by your perspective on this subject. I will stop by in the future to check things out!

PS. Is that a Ron Paul banner I see you flying? Ron Paul rocks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, </p>
<p>Good to hear back from you&#8230; I appreciate your generous and gracious response. I can tell that you, too, enjoy a good historical discussion!</p>
<p>I would like to first say that i agree with all of your points.</p>
<p>I would also like to admit academic irresponsibility on my part:<br />
after reading your original post and my response more closely, I can clearly see that i misconstrued your point. I apologize, I simply didnt read as thoroughly as your points deserved.</p>
<p>Now that I have a clearer head I agree with you completely.</p>
<p>I just wanted to clarify one thing: in my second point I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that slavery was the south&#8217;s only preoccupation. I meant that much of what the south(ern democrats)  were doing politically at the time was intended to preserve and expand the institution of slavery which they saw as fundamental to southern agriculture. This created a mentality in the North that every move made by the south was calculated to undermine the many &#8216;compromises&#8217; litigated at the time. You bring up a very good point, however, mentioning that the North acted with &#8220;wartime resources&#8221; in mind.<br />
Indeed, much as history is misunderstood today, so did the North and South adulterate the other&#8217;s intentions.</p>
<p>Thanks again, for clarifying things for me. I am impressed by your perspective on this subject. I will stop by in the future to check things out!</p>
<p>PS. Is that a Ron Paul banner I see you flying? Ron Paul rocks!</p>
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